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      10-06-2010 01:27 PM #71
      Quote Originally Posted by nkgneto View Post
      There should be a T-Red gtg @ VWOA maybe then they will pay attention. Maybe call some media folks too.
      I've been considering getting a class action law suit going... but I kinda feel like it might be a waste of time. I am up to try anything though...
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      10-06-2010 01:30 PM #72
      third owner bmp 80k it just started on the hood.





      and two weeks ago it was clean as hell!


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      10-06-2010 01:39 PM #73
      by the way my friends brand new Passat CC had delamination issues on the front bumper, it has 10k miles...
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      11-09-2010 12:41 PM #74
      Has anything come of this? What if I don't have an R32?

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      Clearcoat has peeled off on the hood, side mirrors and other places. It started a while back, just never got around to looking into it.

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      11-09-2010 03:25 PM #75
      Class action suit would be nice. VWOA has really avoided dealing with this and it is clearly a defect on their end. Other companies have dealt with similar issues like this in the past with great success. I recall Ford trucks in the 1980's had an issue with the clear coat or paint peeling and they re-painted customer's vehicles. I love my car but don't feel like spending $2K on a full re-spray to fix negligence on the manufacturers behalf.

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      11-09-2010 03:33 PM #76
      Quote Originally Posted by Fleethammer View Post
      I love my car but don't feel like spending $2K on a full re-spray to fix negligence on the manufacturers behalf.
      Same here. I hate that my car looks like ass though...

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      11-09-2010 05:29 PM #77
      I have peeling on my '04 TR R32 on the hood, roof, and now tiny little pinpoints are starting on the deck lid. If you look at the roof and hood at an angle, it looks like there are little iredescent (sp?) spots which scare the crap out of me because I can't get them out and I fear they are the start of the peeling process.

      I called VWOA a few weeks ago and was told to take it to the local dealer and have the manager look at it to determine if they will do anything. Unfortunately, I had already done that and the dealer told me it was caused by tree sap and that they couldn't do anything for me. Now, since I'm a girl, I assumed that he was just saying that b.s. to get me to go away but after reading what some of you have been told, I see that it's a bigger issue.

      My mom's the original owner and I bought it from her in October 2007. It only started to peel in December of 2009. My mom got the '08 DBP R32 and has no issues.....yet.
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      11-09-2010 08:04 PM #78
      Quote Originally Posted by .:R32Chick View Post
      dealer told me it was caused by tree sap
      Definitely not caused by that , but tree sap wouldn't help!
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      11-10-2010 09:30 AM #79
      Quote Originally Posted by Projekt R32 View Post
      Definitely not caused by that , but tree sap wouldn't help!
      That's what killed me! I felt like he was trying to feed me a line cuz I'm a girl! I was pissed to say the least. I am METICULOUS about my car and take better care of her than myself! She has never been parked where sap could even get on her so I was mad that he would even insinuate that I could be so careless.

      It's heartbreaking to see such a beautiful machine have this issue and have no support from VW.
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      11-27-2010 08:47 PM #80
      48k on my R and starting to have issues with clear coat. Can you update me as to status of VWOA getting on board to do something.

    11. 11-28-2010 05:54 AM #81
      Driver Side Door TR 120k started at 110k

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      11-28-2010 11:50 AM #82
      Quote Originally Posted by DubSr View Post
      48k on my R and starting to have issues with clear coat. Can you update me as to status of VWOA getting on board to do something.
      Here is the update:

      VWOA has denied all cases but one (powerdubs)
      The regional reps will not take responsibility and just deny the claim once it reaches them. I have even had a hard time getting dealers to pass the info along to the regional reps!!!

      Basically we need to surpass the dealers, and regional reps to get to someone who CAN actually do something. Or hire lawyers (which vw will hire 10x more expensive ones), or all meet up and get a group rate on a full respray

      Thanks again VWOA
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    13. 11-28-2010 12:07 PM #83
      this thread made my heart drop!! im in the market for an R32! How can a car with only 50K miles have such a paint job problem? Is this some flaw from the factory? I have an 02 GTI 337 with 90K miles and i have only 1 spot of clearcoat peal on the front bumper, its not even noticable!

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      11-28-2010 01:14 PM #84
      Quote Originally Posted by hondacrf1500 View Post
      this thread made my heart drop!! im in the market for an R32! How can a car with only 50K miles have such a paint job problem? Is this some flaw from the factory? I have an 02 GTI 337 with 90K miles and i have only 1 spot of clearcoat peal on the front bumper, its not even noticable!
      Contaminants in the base coat... causes clear to peel in sheets This is mainly a Tornado Red issue, since out of 500 TR's 100+ are peeling....
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      11-29-2010 10:17 AM #85
      I don't know what's involved (time, money, etc.) but I'm very seriously interested in starting a class action lawsuit. Does anyone know how to go about doing it? What's involved?

      I'm very close to VWoA headquarters and can always drop in on them!
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      11-29-2010 10:33 AM #86
      Quote Originally Posted by .:R32Chick View Post
      I don't know what's involved (time, money, etc.) but I'm very seriously interested in starting a class action lawsuit. Does anyone know how to go about doing it? What's involved?

      I'm very close to VWoA headquarters and can always drop in on them!
      These two links I found might help.

      http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/faq.html

      http://law.freeadvice.com/litigation...n-attorney.htm

      I think someone just needs to contact a good class action attorney, present them with the facts and see if they feel we have a chance, if they will represent us, and of course, how much they will take from the settlement. Finding an attorney near VWoA headquarters would be ideal to keep down travel expenses that attorney's may charge (hint hint!) I would be happy to draft a letter stating our case.

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      11-29-2010 10:49 AM #87
      Quote Originally Posted by Fleethammer View Post
      I would be happy to draft a letter stating our case.
      Go for it, It can't hurt.

      If we are going to seriously start a class action law suit against VWOA, let me talk to my legal team as well... which consists of my entire family being lawyers and police, haha.
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      11-29-2010 10:51 AM #88
      Quote Originally Posted by .:R32Chick View Post
      I'm very close to VWoA headquarters and can always drop in on them!
      Make sure they don't make you disappear if you drop by, like our clearcoat recall Drop in and see what they say, tell them about the rage and frustration of LOYAL VW enthusiasts here in this thread... send word haha
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      11-29-2010 02:10 PM #89
      Quote Originally Posted by mista dubba dubba View Post
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      I have a TR with clearcoat peeling mostly on hood, and a little patch on the roof. I'll take pics asap.

      When I originally posted this 5 months ago, my clearcoat was peeling in small patches ranging from a centimeter to an in inch in diameter. A couple of these have since grown much larger. I now have one on my roof and one on my hood that are about 9 inches in diameter each. There are a lot more of those small patches on my hood now -- can't wait to see how they grow!

    20. 11-30-2010 02:17 AM #90
      I feel your pain, my friends make a joke of mine, they give me crap about how this is once in a lifetime opportunity to peel clear coat off a R32 . Im over it, most my car is repainted anyway...

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      11-30-2010 10:17 AM #91
      I have V6 (vr6 2.8) 4motion 2000, i repainted it last year and i have 5cmX5cm area on passenger door before painting. And the color was LB5N, indigo blue.

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      12-02-2010 12:05 PM #92
      Quote Originally Posted by Projekt R32 View Post
      Make sure they don't make you disappear if you drop by, like our clearcoat recall
      I never thought of anything happening to me if I just drop by! Yikes!

      Projekt R32 - who do you suggest I ask to see if I decide to drop in? I don't have any contacts or names to ask for. We really should try to do a conference call of something so we can really get this off of the ground.

      My car looks like poop because I've dabbed paint over the clearcoat to stop the spreading and I'm tired of being upset about it. Let's do this!!
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      12-02-2010 05:12 PM #93
      Quote Originally Posted by .:R32Chick View Post
      who do you suggest I ask to see if I decide to drop in?
      I don't know to be honest, I have never gotten past the dealer and spoken to an actual regional rep. I get the middle man run around, I don't even know who is the right person to see. I am going to try to search powerdubs threads to find his clearcoat battle thread to see if it lists his contact at VWOA who ok'd the clear coat fix for him.
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    24. 12-03-2010 01:06 PM #94
      Follow this link...think it might be worth a shot contacting any of these people? just a thought.

      http://www.volkswagengroupamerica.co...s_contacts.htm

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      12-03-2010 01:15 PM #95
      Quote Originally Posted by pmoo9 View Post
      Follow this link...think it might be worth a shot contacting any of these people? just a thought.

      http://www.volkswagengroupamerica.co...s_contacts.htm
      Much appreciated, but they are all from PR/Communications... Maybe they can put us in contact with the right people... probably not though knowing hoe helpful VWOA loves to be
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    26. 12-03-2010 04:59 PM #96
      Yea i was thinking that maybe contacting some of these PR people might spark some interest. Problems like this is bad PR in my eyes, especially if they see threats of class action lawsuits. Contacting some PR people might be worth a shot seeing how everything else has gotten shot down so far.

      Even contacting the VW Motorsport guy might help, part of his job is to promote the performance aspects of vw, I think R32 owners are a significant portion of his demographic.

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      12-03-2010 05:18 PM #97
      Quote Originally Posted by pmoo9 View Post
      Yea i was thinking that maybe contacting some of these PR people might spark some interest. Problems like this is bad PR in my eyes, especially if they see threats of class action lawsuits. Contacting some PR people might be worth a shot seeing how everything else has gotten shot down so far.

      Even contacting the VW Motorsport guy might help, part of his job is to promote the performance aspects of vw, I think R32 owners are a significant portion of his demographic.
      I hear ya, but VW does know all about it already, lol.
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      12-03-2010 05:19 PM #98


      pics like these make me cry on the inside for you TR owners

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      12-03-2010 05:23 PM #99
      Quote Originally Posted by pmoo9 View Post
      Yea i was thinking that maybe contacting some of these PR people might spark some interest. Problems like this is bad PR in my eyes, especially if they see threats of class action lawsuits. Contacting some PR people might be worth a shot seeing how everything else has gotten shot down so far.

      Even contacting the VW Motorsport guy might help, part of his job is to promote the performance aspects of vw, I think R32 owners are a significant portion of his demographic.
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      pics like these make me cry on the inside for you TR owners

      Should I post this pic and a link to this thread on VWOA's facebook fan page?
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      12-03-2010 06:07 PM #100
      Quote Originally Posted by Projekt R32 View Post
      Should I post this pic and a link to this thread on VWOA's facebook fan page?
      Do it!

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      12-03-2010 06:25 PM #101
      Quote Originally Posted by nkgneto View Post
      Do it!
      Done, worst part is I love VW, and will probably still always, I wish their corporate half would just own up to their mistakes...
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      12-03-2010 06:45 PM #102
      Well played, Projekt. So begins the PR campaign against VW to be heard...




      edit: I can't find the post on fb. I was hoping to stare at it an laugh heartily. =(
      Last edited by knelau; 12-03-2010 at 06:53 PM.

    33. 12-04-2010 12:03 AM #103
      should we start a facebook group of people who have clear coat issues?

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      12-04-2010 12:23 AM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by knelau View Post
      Well played, Projekt. So begins the PR campaign against VW to be heard...




      edit: I can't find the post on fb. I was hoping to stare at it an laugh heartily. =(
      When you go onto their page you have to click on the little "filters" button, and then select "VW + Others"

      Scroll down a little bit and you should see it.

    35. 12-04-2010 06:58 AM #105
      Just bought my TR R last week (it was fairly dark couldn't see much), and I noticed this issue the day after I took delivery. I had assumed it was the PO's negligence, the paint looked like no one really took care of it. It made me wonder, however, because my clear coat has come off in the section about the size of a quarter on my roof. and on my hatch the clear is hazing pretty heavily.

      I figure if I am going to have to shell out cash to repair this, I may as well get a full on color change.

      Hope VW does something about this, now I know that this is a common issue

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