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      09-14-2012 11:49 AM #51
      you can buy the inserts for the koni yellow shocks. but from what i found through searching is they were too long.

    2. 09-14-2012 01:49 PM #52
      Quote Originally Posted by scirockalot8v View Post
      you can buy the inserts for the koni yellow shocks. but from what i found through searching is they were too long.
      I was just thinking about it because I already have Koni Yellows, and there was a local selling racelands for cheap, but now they're sold anyway.

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      09-14-2012 02:53 PM #53
      as far as keeping the threads clean... antiseize does collect dirt, but I've found it does work wonders to keep the threads rust free. I just coat them in it, and before adjusting the coils I spay all the old stuff off with brake clean and reapply new stuff.

      when I clean them off, they look brand new still.

      I might have to look in to doing something like this for a bag over coil setup. maybe instead of using that spacer, cut down the body and tap new threads inside for the cap that holds it in.

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      09-14-2012 03:27 PM #54
      the thing is most are to lazy to spray and wipe them clean. they just start turning them collars until they jamb up. i used anti seize on the racelands i had. everytine i adjusted them i cleaned the threads. the spun freely after 4 years.

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      09-14-2012 04:36 PM #56
      Quote Originally Posted by scirockalot8v View Post
      they are different. the inserts in standard shocks are too long. plus the race insert is beefy. much more durable. plus lifetime warranty. believe my looked into tons of replacements: monroe, kyb, other koni, bilstein ect. i even emailed a few coilover companies to find out what brands they use. no response to that.
      I know H&R uses Billstein

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      09-16-2012 08:37 PM #57
      well i got the ultimos thanks to mike. they are blown to hell and back. got home and pulled the insert. i knew just from looking at it, it is different than the original raceland insert. after a quick measurement..it is shorter. its about a 1/2 inch bigger than the koni insert. tomorrow i will pull my insert out of the car and see if it fits!

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      09-16-2012 08:55 PM #58
      Yes. Can't wait to see the results

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      09-16-2012 09:14 PM #59
      those struts can burn in hell.... hope they work for when these new ones blow too

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      09-17-2012 08:28 PM #60
      today i test fitted the koni insert in the ultimo body....

      look pretty close to the ultimo insert...

      boom! i would think a 1/2in or 1/4in. spacer would be just enough. since the ultimos use a gland nut to hold the insert in.


      so dont throw away your blown ultimos! spend $400 and you can have low dampening adjustable coilovers!

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      09-17-2012 08:32 PM #61
      This is awesome

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      09-17-2012 09:07 PM #62
      finally a thread worth reading!! this is amazing man
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      09-17-2012 09:36 PM #63
      haha thanks. this is only because i was in the spot that alot of people find themselves in. i had blow coilovers so i thought hey maybe ill just buy another cheap set for $400 ish orrrrrr. take the $400 gamble and see if the koni inserts will fit and then have a really nice set of coilovers. well it worked. and looks like it will work on racelands/ultimos and fk's so far.

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      09-17-2012 10:00 PM #64
      this is pretty insane, I have blown my four ultimo too, might try this! Where did you buy the koni ??

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      09-17-2012 10:05 PM #65
      i got them from summit racing. part number is 8610-1436 watch you dont get the 1437's they have different dimensions and will not fit. would be cool if koni ran a special on here and could hook people up with a discount on these.

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      09-17-2012 10:27 PM #66
      Quote Originally Posted by scirockalot8v View Post
      i got them from summit racing. part number is 8610-1436 watch you dont get the 1437's they have different dimensions and will not fit. would be cool if koni ran a special on here and could hook people up with a discount on these.
      definetly
      EDIT: I checked on this site, and are they really sold individually?? because on the pic there are two shock, but you told that they were 400 so I guess you need to buy 2 ??
      Last edited by mk-4-ever; 09-17-2012 at 10:33 PM.

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      09-17-2012 10:37 PM #67
      $200/pc. yeah the pic is misleading. i contacted koni about it and they said they (koni) sell them in pairs were other companies will sell them individually.

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      09-17-2012 10:41 PM #68
      Quote Originally Posted by scirockalot8v View Post
      $200/pc. yeah the pic is misleading. i contacted koni about it and they said they (koni) sell them in pairs were other companies will sell them individually.
      thanks!
      It's pretty cool for those on warranty because they can build their own suspension with the blown struts and the koni insertion, and sell the new one that the companies will send them under warranty! That's what I'm going to do

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      09-18-2012 12:53 AM #69
      Nice! That's pretty cool.
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      09-19-2012 09:59 AM #70
      Question.

      I have blown regular racelands. Are the strut bodies the same size as ultimos? And do you think the Koni inserts would fit? I unserstand the concept of what you have done, but am clueless when it comes to actual specs regarding spring rate, blah blah blah.

      Just wondering basically what I should be looking at in regards to what inserts will fit if they arent the same size. And how to determine what will. Thanks!
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      09-19-2012 10:49 AM #71
      the raceland inserts are taller and skinnier than the ultimo insert. actually the ultimo insert is almost identical to the koni insert. the koni insert should fit in a raceland body but would need to be spaced. spring rates is really just up to you. you can buy aftermarket coilover springs. most start at 300lbs and go up to 700lbs. adjusting the dampening you can fine tune how they ride with your current springs. im still messing with mine. ive had them at full soft and it ride freaking amazing. i also turned it 1 full turn to firm it up. still rode good but you can tell it is more "sporty" i cant imagine what 3 full turns would be like on these. probably like riding on 4x4 posts.
      lots of springs here.
      http://pitstopusa.com/c-131948-sprin...r-springs.html
      Last edited by scirockalot8v; 09-19-2012 at 10:51 AM.

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      09-19-2012 10:56 AM #72
      700lb spring rates, do want
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      09-19-2012 01:52 PM #73
      you crazy.

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      09-19-2012 01:54 PM #74
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      09-20-2012 01:12 PM #75
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