MPG with the broken in cars?
OK, so I just did some research on the FiST. Interesting enough, our market only gets the 3Dr with the 6spd Manual. Comes fully loaded (Climate control, Sync, Recaro's !!!), but you can't add heated seats, NAV,Sunroof,or HIDs. Would have loved to add HIDs and heated seats.
Demos are going for $25k driveaway and $27k for a brand new example.
I think this is the first time I've seen a brand new +desirable car that's cheaper than Canada.
(As a comparison, a brand new poverty spec GTI costs 25% more than in Canada)
I have been closely looking at the ST. The Fiesta itself is a great car (have driven one multiple times) and I bet the ST would be great.
However, couple things are deal breakers, which is still why I'm aiming for the Golf TDI next summer:
1) No xenons. This is an absolute requirement for me.
2) I can't stand Ford interiors and ergonomics. A lot of the switchgear works opposite of what every other manufacturer does and I'm really not a fan of touchscreens such as the Ford Sync Touch whatever.
I've had mine for 3 weeks and it's been a great experience.
After a 300 mile drive in the mountains soaking in the fall colors and open roads, it now has covered around 1700 miles and it's been flawless so far.
All the forum warriors and typical internet chatter on this car is just that, so typical. From the moaning about a perceived lack of power vs the Focus ST (or other cars) to the necessity of buying the Recaros or to the lack of frilly LED light jewelry, as usual, much of what is read online is valueless.
It's a lightweight, entry level "hot hatch" and it provides a high level of equipment and horsepower for the dollar. The comparison to the Focus ST can be summed up in one sentence. The Focus weighs 500lbs more. If you need a slightly bigger back seat and 55 more horsepower, more equipment and a more macho exterior, then you will be pulling around 500 pounds in the process.
No car is for everyone, but this one fit my needs. It replaced my prior daily driver and won't serve as my sole sports car. I also own two FD Rx7 and have a Tahoe to drag them to the race track. I'm an instructor for several groups and I look forward to spending an instructor session, on occasion, flogging the Fiesta ST. It's certainly got the chassis and brakes to make any track enjoyable.
In short, the brakes are stellar. They integrated just the right amount of initial grab and while my street exploits haven't gotten them track hot yet, I feel they will probably work well in track use. It's definitely more than strong enough for the street. The engine seems to be opening up a bit and it's pulling very strong, just as all the reviewers have commented. The ride is commendably stiff and works with the chassis to provide almost go-kart driving feel. Anyone who complains clearly shouldn't have bought this vehicle.
As for fuel economy, it's not dipped below 30 yet. My 300 miles on Sunday, spent most of the time in boost, returned 31.7 for the tank. I'm impressed.
The car has been tirelessly covered so far by the media. Most of what you're reading is very true. It's a great effort by Ford. The Focus ST is a better choice for many who will need a dual use car with a more inviting back seat and cargo area, but damn, the little Fiesta is a monster for those that can live with its size (and 500lb weight advantage).
The Polo feels like a tinbox inside. The interior quality is similar to a MK3.5.
It also comes with the highly unreliable 1.4T turbo + supercharger and you can only get the problematic 7spd dry clutch DSG transmission. They also cost more than a GTI if you just add HIDs and sunroof. The previous Polo came with the AWP 1.8T nevah looose (6spd manual + 1.8T in a MK3sized + weight car) is actually quite fun to drive.
Byron: I double checked and the Recaros do not come with the heating elements for the Aussie markets It sucks, because the weather in Melbourne is comparable to Vancouver (quite chilly in the morning; and the heated seats are god sent after a back workout)
i was thoroughly impressed with the Fiesta ST. I did the Ford Driving event and I had a blast ... I'd love to get one.
This is exactly what we needed to push other car manufacturer to offer sport compact hatches. We all win!
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Awesome and thanks to all the owners here who have commented so far. How do car seats fit in one of these? I had a '13 WRX sedan, and contrary to belief the rear seat in one of those was pretty generous for car seat use. Could a family of four ride around in one of these, or is it strictly a DINK or single persons car?
Looking around for test numbers vs Focus, just read this one by MT:
Unlike other EcoBoost engines, the 1.6-liter exhibits some turbo lag. Not much goes on below 3000 rpm, but once boost kicks in, the 2729-pound subcompact scoots along nicely. Sixty mph comes in 6.4 seconds and the quarter mile passes in 14.9 seconds with a trap speed of 94.6 mph. For comparison, the 3193-pound and 252-hp Focus ST hit 60 in 5.9 seconds and sprinted through the quarter in 14.6 seconds at 95.9 mph.
The Focus carried its advantage into our handling tests. On the skidpad, the Fiesta's impressive 0.90 g fell short of the Focus' 0.96 g. The more powerful Focus also led in the figure eight, needing 25.4 seconds to finish at 0.70 g (avg), while the Fiesta needed 26.1 seconds at 0.65 g (avg). The one test where the Fiesta came out on top was braking -- a full stop from 60 needed just 104 feet versus the Focus' 112 feet.
It's impressive just how close the Fiesta is to the Focus despite a 55-hp and 68-lb-ft handicap. That's the beauty of a 464-pound weight advantage. Predictably, the reduced weight is a big part of the Fiesta's smile-inducing character.