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    1. Member Dieselstation's Avatar
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      09-21-2015 08:13 PM #1
      size is about the same as a VW Golf.

      http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...ross?fbfanpage





      Volkswagen is rejiggering its lineup of passenger vehicles, and focusing on rebuilding a completely refreshed lineup of mainstream cars and SUV models—with all except for Touareg and Phaeton built on VW’s flexible MQB platform.

      After some of those "core pillars" of the lineup are set, the brand intends to thoroughly refresh its small-vehicle lineup, with a series of small crossover utility vehicles.

      Following the 2017 Volkswagen Tiguan, which was first shown in short-wheelbase form, 15 months or more ahead of U.S. deliveries for the long-wheelbase, Mexican-built version, Volkswagen is expected to focus on the T-Roc, a model that will build on the design of the T-Roc Concept from the 2014 Geneva Motor Show and have a footprint about the size of the Golf.

      The production T-Roc, as we’ve seen hints of in heavily cloaked spy shots, is expected make an auto-show debut later in 2016, to go on sale internationally in 2017 (perhaps later for the U.S.), and to share much with the upcoming Audi Q1. The production model would face off with the Nissan Juke, Honda HR-V, and MINI Countryman.

      Dr. Heinz-Jakob Neusser, the head of powertrain development for Volkswagen AG, said this past week at a media roundtable that the movement of Tiguan upward in size will allow space in the lineup for the T-Roc, as well as a smaller T-Cross model that would occupy a so-called “A-zero” segment.

      “We have a better chance in meeting the needs of customers, and this change in segments works very well,” said Neusser, who noted that coupe variants of those smaller crossover models are also being considered.

      “If this fits also for the U.S., we will bring it,” Neusser said of the T-Cross, indicating that VW had already received strong positive feedback from international dealers on such a model.
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      09-21-2015 08:14 PM #2
      That looks cool.
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      09-21-2015 08:16 PM #3
      Targa top a production item?
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    4. 09-21-2015 08:21 PM #4
      Gas or TDI?



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      09-21-2015 08:25 PM #5
      Chances that it'll look like this:



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      Chances that it'll look like this:



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      09-22-2015 08:59 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Clarkson View Post
      Chances that it'll look like this:



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      Chances that it'll look like this:



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      chances that it will look only slightly different than a GTI 100%
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      09-21-2015 08:26 PM #7
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      09-21-2015 08:30 PM #8
      Excellent, VW really needs a car in that class.

      NO WAY will it be a three-door with a targa, though.
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      09-21-2015 10:34 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by spoonie View Post
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      09-21-2015 08:31 PM #10
      Thread Title is not correct and reading is a lost art:

      If this fits also for the U.S., we will bring it,” Neusser said of the T-Cross..."

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      09-21-2015 08:36 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by robr2 View Post
      Thread Title is not correct and reading is a lost art:

      If this fits also for the U.S., we will bring it,” Neusser said of the T-Cross..."
      That statement refers to T-Cross, not T-Roc. Two different SUVs.

      T-Roc is coming to the US (per thread title). T-Cross may come to the US (as you noted).

      Dr. Heinz-Jakob Neusser, the head of powertrain development for Volkswagen AG, said this past week at a media roundtable that the movement of Tiguan upward in size will allow space in the lineup for the T-Roc, as well as a smaller T-Cross model that would occupy a so-called “A-zero” segment.

      “We have a better chance in meeting the needs of customers, and this change in segments works very well,” said Neusser, who noted that coupe variants of those smaller crossover models are also being considered.

      “If this fits also for the U.S., we will bring it,” Neusser said of the T-Cross, indicating that VW had already received strong positive feedback from international dealers on such a model.
      In VW-speak "A0" = B-segment i.e. Polo sized vehicles

      T-Cross = B-segment (e.g. Nissan Juke, Honda HR-V, Mazda2, Jeep Renegade etc)

      T-Roc (aka Tiguan Sport) = C-segment SWB (e.g. Nissan Qashqai, Jeep Compass, Subaru XV, Mitsubishi Outlander etc)

      Tiguan = C-segment LWB (e.g. Nissan Rouge, Jeep Cherokee, Honda CR-V etc.)
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      09-22-2015 08:46 AM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by bzcat View Post
      That statement refers to T-Cross, not T-Roc. Two different SUVs.

      T-Roc is coming to the US (per thread title). T-Cross may come to the US (as you noted).
      Got it. As I said, reading is a lost art - on me as well.

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      09-21-2015 08:36 PM #13
      After the financial hit they are getting ready to take, I don't think they'll be dabbling in anything like this in the short term.

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      09-22-2015 10:02 AM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by rbloedow View Post
      After the financial hit they are getting ready to take, I don't think they'll be dabbling in anything like this in the short term.
      Maybe, but they also need something to make people say "I want that" and to pull attention away from the TDI issues. Assuming they build it that way, a Targa 'coupe' mini SUV could do just that. At least a little.

      The heavy lifting is already done and it's apparently already set up for our market, so why not bring it?
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      09-22-2015 11:57 AM #15
      so we get this but no Sirocco???
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    16. 09-22-2015 12:39 PM #16
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      so we get this but no Sirocco or Polo??
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      09-22-2015 12:50 PM #17
      It's ****ing hilarious to me that people are still clamoring for the Scirocco and Polo...
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      09-22-2015 01:32 PM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      It's ****ing hilarious to me that people are still clamoring for the Scirocco and Polo...
      I know. I keep thinking one day they will finally learn, and stop. But god love 'em, they just keep trying.
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      09-22-2015 05:27 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      It's ****ing hilarious to me that people are still clamoring for the Scirocco and Polo...
      Meh...I would have considered a Polo as my daily if it were available.

      You never know, Ford brought over the ST and the RS and Civic owners keep clamoring for the type R...which might also pay off.

      I do have a feeling that VW will have to completely revamp their product line in the coming years. I'm sure they will just give us a ton of these crappy CUV crossover things and give them stupid names such as "T-ROC." I couldn't look my father in the eye and say "YEah pop, just bought a new T-ROC!" I cant even picture the person who buys one of these.
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      04-10-2017 09:54 AM #20
      I kinda like it a lot. I'm not sure it will tick all my boxes but it's a really good form factor.

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    23. 04-10-2017 10:20 AM #23
      Quote Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post
      Goddamn that thing looks tiny, especially in the picture with the guy hanging out the window.

      How well have the CX-3 and HR-V done? This looks much smaller than a Trax or Encore.
      Not sure about the CX-3 (I think it's a hit too) but the HR-V is a sales success for Honda.

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      04-10-2017 10:23 AM #24
      I wonder if they're going to show this at the New York Auto show. They shared this incredibly vague teaser this morning:

      https://www.facebook.com/VW/videos/10158595691650790/

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      04-10-2017 10:47 AM #25
      yay - another crossover
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