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      If you're interested I know a few guys building those type 4 engines out to about 3 liters. Those engines will put a smile on your face
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      03-10-2016 10:57 AM #27
      So my mechanic is a 914, 914-6 and 914-6GT guy as well 930 specialist. If you look through my 930 thread there are a few shots of his GTs and 6s. If you need any 914 stuff I can hook you two up.

      And you stole that car for 1100. My recommendation however is to start squirreling money away for the engine, it will have needs. Congrats, welcome to the slippery slope.

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      especially for epic profit when you sell this thing. because porsche



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      03-10-2016 11:41 AM #29
      Thanks guys! Finished up the wheel, not bad for about $70 all in and some elbow grease.


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      03-10-2016 11:50 AM #30
      Whoa, got to get in on this thread and fantastic work OG!
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      03-10-2016 11:58 AM #31
      Quote Originally Posted by OptimusGlen View Post
      Thanks guys! Finished up the wheel, not bad for about $70 all in and some elbow grease.

      And now you have a 600.00 wheel if you sold it on the Pelican forums. Because Porsche/Patina/R-gruppe.

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      03-10-2016 12:26 PM #32
      Pass.

      For the cheapest motor they build, I can get a 2.7 or 3.2 built for a 914.
      $18K for a 4 cylinder air cooled motor with no carbs seems awful steep.
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    8. 03-10-2016 12:36 PM #33
      That steering wheel looks killer! I've never tried sewing anything, but I can't imagine I'd be much good at it.

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      03-10-2016 12:55 PM #34
      Quote Originally Posted by Harrison. View Post
      That steering wheel looks killer! I've never tried sewing anything, but I can't imagine I'd be much good at it.
      I have an industrial sewing machine that I use to sew banners. That's all I use it for, just straight stitches on banners. I've learned enough about sewing to have a lot of respect for people who are good at it.

      I will say that I'd have been tempted to use a different color thread, though. The possibilities are nearly endless.
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      03-10-2016 12:56 PM #35
      Quote Originally Posted by karl_1052 View Post
      Pass.

      For the cheapest motor they build, I can get a 2.7 or 3.2 built for a 914.
      $18K for a 4 cylinder air cooled motor with no carbs seems awful steep.
      In my experience as of late, 18K gets you in the door on a 6cyl top end job. You can reduce this a bit doing all the labor yourself and using the services of guys in the Pelican for sale forums (rather than Ollies). Also you could dodge the plating/powder coating bill a a bit doing clean-up yourself.

      I think the catch with the OP is finding a reasonable 'core' 6cyl for the right price.

      Rebuilding these motors is complex but very rewarding. I would pull the 4cyl, put it on a stand for later and start scrounging a 6cyl. But I have been called stupid on more than one occasion.

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      03-10-2016 01:55 PM #36
      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post

      I will say that I'd have been tempted to use a different color thread, though. The possibilities are nearly endless.
      I was too! Especially when there was an orange thread in stock with the same name as this paint color. (Tangerine)

      In the end I wanted something more timeless and less boy racer.

      On the engine topic. I will not be doing a 6-cyl. Watching my buddy Kris build up his 911t and all the expenses that went along with the 6 cyl make me say no thanks.

      My engine is a 2.0 on dual carbs. If I can get over 100hp I will be just fine. I've got a rebuild kit for the carbs, but waiting untill I pull the engine to order any more parts.

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      03-15-2016 11:33 AM #37
      Some good and some bad news for the project.

      Good news. Heard back from the previous owner about the cam and distributor. Turns out the car did get a cam and distributor change when the 2.0 bore/stroke kit was installed with the carburetors. The exact details of what was installed will have to wait until I tear it down, but that's a good sign.

      The bad news. Tearing the interior down further, found some rust under the tar. Solid metal underneath the rust fortunately. Used a rust converter for now but may revisit it next winter. Also found a rusted through hole on the drivers side sill under the aluminum sill plate. Which means the rockers under that spot are probably no good too. Plan there is to see exactly how bad it is, then patch that hole. Again, I'll dig further into it next winter

      Started cleaning up the gas tank and it's coming along nicely, the copper (or brass?) filter sock came free of the fitting.

      Also pictures of all of the FI stuff that came off the car.


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      High Res: http://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1674/25809662...0f079025e_o.jpg

      Received my new carpet set, I got the plush black 10-piece from the place on eBay. Very pleased with the quality, but of course haven't had a chance to put it in.

      Also ordered the Coverall black dash cap. Reviews and pictures seem to all be positive.

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      03-15-2016 11:39 AM #38
      Quote Originally Posted by OptimusGlen View Post
      Weird. That thin plate with the louvers is for a Type 1 (Beetle) engine, as is the metal exhaust gasket. Some of the other seals and whatnot are interchangeable, but it looks like you have a real mixed bag there. Did the original owner have a penchant for Beetles as well? Of course, they could've previously yet not had any for the last 20 years or more, so you might not have any idea whatsoever.
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      03-15-2016 11:45 AM #39
      Oh, and check that distributor number. You may want to trash it... Unless you really like running hot, hesitation and flat spots in the power curve, of course.
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      03-15-2016 11:47 AM #40
      I assume you got the carpet from AppBiz. Word of advice, measure half a dozen times then put everything in together before doing any gluing.

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      03-15-2016 12:07 PM #41
      Quote Originally Posted by 16volt View Post
      I assume you got the carpet from AppBiz. Word of advice, measure half a dozen times then put everything in together before doing any gluing.
      The seller is performance900.1700 on eBay. Lots of positive reviews. I will make sure to measure/install completely before pulling it out for adhesive though.

      Quote Originally Posted by Air and water do mix View Post
      Oh, and check that distributor number. You may want to trash it... Unless you really like running hot, hesitation and flat spots in the power curve, of course.
      All the stuff in that box will probably never be used, it's a box of old parts that the seller had no use for. As I stated the distributor was swapped out for something else, what exactly it is will be figured out once I start in on the engine. I wont be running the original distributor though.
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      03-15-2016 12:21 PM #42
      Awesome find! You've got yourself a really nice project


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      03-15-2016 01:28 PM #43
      Quote Originally Posted by OptimusGlen View Post
      All the stuff in that box will probably never be used, it's a box of old parts that the seller had no use for. As I stated the distributor was swapped out for something else, what exactly it is will be figured out once I start in on the engine. I wont be running the original distributor though.
      Sorry, I meant the one on the engine. (You know, the one with the number you can't easily read!).

      The one in the box looks like a stocker, which isn't a problem. It's the 009 that's the biggest issue. The 050 is the only centrifugal advance distributor that I'd even consider running, as it's supposed to have the correct advance curve for short connecting rod engines (Type IV) and the piston speed is much faster compared to using a relatively long connecting rod (Type I). I'd probably get rid of it whatever type it is and go for a good SVDA distributor... If there's one that works well with the Type IV.
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      03-16-2016 09:00 AM #44
      Those FI parts are for a D-Jet system. If you decide to run the FI you will need the stock cam.

      If you're gonna keep the carbs, then nevermind.

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      03-16-2016 09:13 AM #45
      Quote Originally Posted by Bartnik View Post
      Those FI parts are for a D-Jet system. If you decide to run the FI you will need the stock cam.

      If you're gonna keep the carbs, then nevermind.
      That's why so many that are simply converted to carbs don't run well. The ultra conservative cam doesn't work well with carburetors, but it works far better than a non-stock came does with D Jetronic!

      Don't sweat it, he's not going back to the stock system.

      Also: At least it's not the 1.8 L Jetronic!
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      03-16-2016 10:34 AM #46
      Quote Originally Posted by karl_1052 View Post
      Pass.

      For the cheapest motor they build, I can get a 2.7 or 3.2 built for a 914.
      $18K for a 4 cylinder air cooled motor with no carbs seems awful steep.
      That is also Jake Raby, probably the number one Type 4 guy anywhere, there are some slightly cheaper options.

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      03-16-2016 11:10 AM #47
      As I said in your "searching for..." thread, I'm super happy that you got this car. I was tempted to buy it for $1100 because I knew it was a steal. I don't need more projects though.

      Speaking of projects, would you be willing to put me in touch with the 914/911 guy that you got those seats from as well as your friend who does PDR? My 911SC needs everything and any little part I can get locally is a huge plus. My daily is also in dire need of some dent removal. I can IM you my phone number if you want.

      Thanks man!

    23. 03-16-2016 12:12 PM #48
      Cool restoration project. Love the early seats and the gold lettering on the engine lid against the 1970s chic orange paint. Nice clean up on the steering wheel. Should provide a few more years service. It's got patina all right.
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      03-16-2016 01:20 PM #50
      Quote Originally Posted by Orjan View Post
      Awesome find! You've got yourself a really nice project

      Fully expecting this photo to be reenacted once the project is done.

      Cool restoration is cool!
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