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      01-23-2017 06:10 PM #103
      This is all good stuff. The playoff system really made the first 26 races dull and took away meaning from that because the weight was off your shoulders after that first win. These revisions make the season feel more polished through the whole year. The playoff system is much more cohesive now instead of being half-assed.

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      01-24-2017 04:07 AM #104
      Quote Originally Posted by Perceptive Bunny View Post
      I'm one with displeasure on the recent talks of format revision. Maybe this is why Carl left. Last Saturday I sat down to watch one of the handful races I missed in 2016 (the most in my 20+ years as a fan) and I could not sit through it. Jeff Gordon retiring had a lot to do it, but I'm one to watch two rats race towards a block of cheese.

      The racing was uneventful down to the coverage and jibber-jabber of the commentators so there was definitely more at play towards my disinterest. I'm all for the in-track field at Charlotte, however, the drastic change to the points system could not place me more distant to the sport.

      NASCAR represented endurance and irregularity not often seen in motorsports. If I wanted to watch what they're conspiring to do so in 2017, there are plenty of racing series which can entertain that factor.
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      01-24-2017 08:06 AM #105
      Quote Originally Posted by Harpoon View Post
      This is all good stuff. The playoff system really made the first 26 races dull and took away meaning from that because the weight was off your shoulders after that first win. These revisions make the season feel more polished through the whole year. The playoff system is much more cohesive now instead of being half-assed.
      I agree. I optmistic with the new format for 2017.
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      01-24-2017 09:49 AM #106
      Quote Originally Posted by Harpoon View Post
      It just sucks that the car is ugly as heck.

      This is truly horrendous.


      I'm not a fan of the new race format, but we'll see how it plays out.

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      01-24-2017 10:04 AM #107
      The HOF should have asterisks next to their name explaining which format they raced in.


      I'll give it a go and see how it is. Will it be like the All Star race? Are teams going to be setting up for shorter runs? Will the races be longer as a result?

      I glanced through the changes but haven't really given it much thought.

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      01-24-2017 10:32 AM #108
      found on reddit:

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      01-24-2017 11:45 AM #109
      Quote Originally Posted by gonzo08452 View Post
      The HOF should have asterisks next to their name explaining which format they raced in.


      I'll give it a go and see how it is. Will it be like the All Star race? Are teams going to be setting up for shorter runs? Will the races be longer as a result?

      I glanced through the changes but haven't really given it much thought.

      Sounds like they want harder driving throughout the entire race. Segment distances will be proportional to the race length and track size, and they changed the way you get bonus points in an attempt to make the regular season a bit more meaningful. Sounds like the segment's will end with a caution which I think it'd be nice if they didn't stop the race after segments finished. As for setting the car up for shorter runs we don't know yet. Using a 500mi race on a 1.5mi track the segments will still be 80+ laps so maybe you have teams making larger swings during pitstops. It is nice that there will be an actual regular season champion though. With that you get 15 chase bonus points but sadly that will only help for the 1st round of the chase.
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      01-24-2017 02:38 PM #110
      Quote Originally Posted by Harpoon View Post
      It just sucks that the car is ugly as heck.




      Rule #1 in car design- never put yellow numbers on a white car. That car is ridiculously graphically challenged.
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      I find your answer vague and unconvincing.
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      01-25-2017 12:24 AM #111
      I guess no more sandbagging or mind games....

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      01-25-2017 10:49 AM #112
      Quote Originally Posted by gonzo08452 View Post
      I guess no more sandbagging or mind games....

      That's the intention... and we all know how intentions go.

      Drivers are completely content letting someone run a dominating race. Because usually the dominant car doesn't win (recent history) because they wear their s**t out. The teams are already running the math. If it takes 100% to run 1st, but you can only do that at 65% of the tracks... or you can run 90% and run 3rd at 80% of the tracks... which gives you more points?

      I'm betting the idea for this point structure came from TRD.
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      01-25-2017 11:23 AM #113
      Yup. No more Knaus voodoo jedi mind tricks. Bring it!!!

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      01-26-2017 10:51 AM #114
      BTW, I was watching the Hub yesterday and they are selling this new format HARD. Understandably, they've always done that whenever something new is implemented. Larry Mac, Danielle Trota, and Adam Alexander have always been supportive of everything NASCAR. However, every fan I've talked to about this have their doubts and some flat out hate it. I'm reserving judgement until I see a few races. I am concerned by what could happen if the ratings drop after a few races. Will they change it again.....

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      02-18-2017 01:01 PM #115
      HI.

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      02-18-2017 01:46 PM #118
      Kurt's Monster Ford looks badass. Can'the wait for tonight.

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      02-18-2017 02:14 PM #120
      Quote Originally Posted by Harpoon View Post
      Kurt's Monster Ford looks badass. Can'the wait for tonight.
      WAIT! What's going on tonight?!

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      02-18-2017 02:37 PM #121
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      WAIT! What's going on tonight?!
      The Clash, bruh. Aka the shootout aka the unlimited.

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      02-18-2017 03:31 PM #122
      Quote Originally Posted by Harpoon View Post
      The Clash, bruh. Aka the shootout aka the unlimited.

      Oh chit. I thought it was next week

      I got my dates mixed up

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      02-18-2017 07:05 PM #123
      Watching FS1, drivers were asked what it means to have Monster as the sponsor. All said the same thing....'bringing energy to the sport'. Come on man. Be a little more creative. Say 'I don't know'. At least it's not a cliché. They've become puppets.

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      02-18-2017 07:23 PM #124
      Quote Originally Posted by Perceptive Bunny View Post
      Rooting for Matt Kenneth this year.
      He's getting up there in age. Better do something.

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      02-18-2017 07:45 PM #125
      These guys are too clean cut imo to effectively sell the Monster brand. They each need to get some ink on their necks. Joey just looks like he's always taking a dump with that expression of his. Bowman, Bayne, Danica, Suarez do not exactly fit the Monster demographic. Weird. This whole deal feels weird.

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