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      02-24-2017 06:07 PM #1
      So here is what had been thought to be the Z/28...





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      2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sets Benchmark for Track Capability

      Special aero, adjustable suspension, exclusive tires drive unprecedented performance for a production sports car

      DAYTONA, Fla. — Chevrolet has established a new performance benchmark with the introduction of the 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE — the most track-capable Camaro ever.

      Taking the track-focused 1LE formula to an unprecedented level, the ZL1 1LE incorporates racing-based suspension and aero technologies, as well as exclusive Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R summer-only tires,* in an extreme track performance package.

      “The track-focused 1LE package offers progressive levels of performance across the Camaro lineup, from the V6 1LE to the SS 1LE,” said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. “But with the new ZL1 1LE, the progression takes a quantum leap — this is the ultimate track-day Camaro.”

      In preliminary testing, the new ZL1 1LE was 3 seconds faster than the standard ZL1 Coupe around General Motors’ 2.9-mile, 18-turn Milford Road Course test track.

      The improved track performance is driven by four key elements:

      • Aerodynamics: New aero features including a carbon fiber rear wing, specific air deflectors and dive planes on the front fascia produce grip-generating downforce to help the car stick harder and drive faster in turns.
      • Adjustable suspension: The ZL1 1LE features racing-derived, lightweight Multimatic DSSV® (Dynamic Suspension Spool Valve) dampers front and rear for exceptional wheel and vehicle control. The front-end ride height is adjustable with the front dampers, which are used with all-new, adjustable camber plates. The rear stabilizer bar also offers three-way adjustability. All of the components are designed for quick changes at the track for optimal performance and a quick return to street settings when the track day ends.
      • Wheels and tires: New, lightweight forged aluminum wheels are an inch wider but an inch smaller in diameter, front and rear, than standard ZL1 wheels and are used with new Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3R tires that deliver max lateral grip of 1.10g. Developed exclusively for the Camaro ZL1 1LE, the 3R tires are designed to warm up faster to help maintain more consistent grip and speed, lap after lap. The overall footprint grows approximately 10 percent over the ZL1, but the wheel-and-tire package weighs about 1.5 pounds (3.3 kg) less per corner.
      • Lighter weight: The lighter wheels and dampers, along with reduced thickness rear glass and a fixed-back rear seat, contribute to an approximately 60-pound (27 kg) lower curb weight than a standard ZL1 Coupe.


      “The new Camaro ZL1 1LE offers the supreme track experience,” said Mark Dickens, executive director, Chevrolet Performance Variants, Parts and Motorsports Engineering. “It’s the pinnacle of Camaro performance and advances the 1LE’s nearly 30-year legacy of uncompromising, track-tailored capability.”

      The power behind the ZL1 1LE is the 650-horsepower, supercharged LT4 engine backed by a six-speed manual transmission featuring Active Rev Match. Brembo brakes, including red calipers with the 1LE logo, are also included. Additional standard features include dual-zone automatic climate control, Bose premium audio system, heated/ventilated front seats and heated steering wheel.

      The 2018 Camaro ZL1 1LE goes on sale later this year. Pricing will be announced closer to the on-sale date.






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    2. 02-24-2017 06:15 PM #2
      That thing is GORGEOUS.

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      02-24-2017 06:19 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by Ryukein View Post
      So here is what had been thought to be the Z/28...

      Yeah I don't understand what they're doing with the Z28 vs. ZL1 designation at this point.
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      02-24-2017 06:25 PM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      Yeah I don't understand what they're doing with the Z28 vs. ZL1 designation at this point.
      Z28 had the unique (to Camaro) motor with the LS7, while this still has the same LT4 from the standard ZL1? Just a guess :shrug:

      ZL1 1LE was 3 seconds faster than the standard ZL1 Coupe around General Motors’ 2.9-mile, 18-turn Milford Road Course test track
      This thing is not screwing around. Love the big carbon fiber wing out back, that huge front grille is a little much, but at least it shouldn't have cooling issues

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      02-24-2017 06:29 PM #5
      I like the engine.

      How much is this thing going to cost? $50K? $60K? That's a lot of money for a Camaro
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    6. 02-24-2017 06:43 PM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by 82Turbo930 View Post
      I like the engine.

      How much is this thing going to cost? $50K? $60K? That's a lot of money for a Camaro
      The base Zl1 is already 60k, I'd expect this to be around 70.

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      02-24-2017 06:52 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by 82Turbo930 View Post
      I like the engine.

      How much is this thing going to cost? $50K? $60K? That's a lot of money for a Camaro
      And yet it's cheap for its performance envelope. It will blast past performance cars costing a lot more. It will keep the Germans honest, that's for sure.
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      02-24-2017 09:40 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by 82Turbo930 View Post
      I like the engine.

      How much is this thing going to cost? $50K? $60K? That's a lot of money for a Camaro
      ummmm yeah, that's not happening! probably no less than $70k msrp then the greedy dealer markups.......

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      02-24-2017 06:35 PM #9
      I see this thing eating a lot of Fords and Kraut burgers.
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      02-24-2017 07:17 PM #10
      Quote Originally Posted by DJMRDARK View Post
      I see this thing eating a lot of Fords and Kraut burgers.
      Will it eat the 800 plus HP Challenger Demon on the dragstrip?
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      02-24-2017 06:30 PM #11
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      Yeah I don't understand what they're doing with the Z28 vs. ZL1 designation at this point.
      I think they felt the Alpha platform could adequately handle the power of the LT4 so they just stuck with it for the track focused version this time.
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      02-24-2017 07:32 PM #12
      Quote Originally Posted by TangoRed View Post
      Yeah I don't understand what they're doing with the Z28 vs. ZL1 designation at this point.
      The multitude of designations using Z's & L's are redundant through the decades & getting a little annoying to keep up with in the GM world. They should open their vocabulary to a few new letters.
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      02-24-2017 06:49 PM #13
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      That thing is GORGEOUS.
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      02-24-2017 08:52 PM #14
      Quote Originally Posted by Perceptive Bunny View Post
      What is so crazy about that: it suits his taste. And I do find this very good looking vs. the z28. Especially those door runners. However, all I can think of now is how much the z28 will depreciate into my favor, give it a year or two. I'd like to track one.
      You're on TCL, dude. You know this.

      Go to strettyend's GT3 thread. A guy with a Golf said "meh."

    15. 02-24-2017 09:06 PM #15
      Seems a redundant amount of 1's and L's



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      02-25-2017 10:23 AM #16
      Quote Originally Posted by Boober_V2.0 View Post
      Seems a redundant amount of 1's and L's
      They should have called it the ZL1 1LZ.

      I am glad they refrained from Z/28 on this one. Keep that for an na car.

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      02-25-2017 12:11 AM #17
      Quote Originally Posted by Perceptive Bunny View Post
      What is so crazy about that: it suits his taste. And I do find this very good looking vs. the z28. Especially those door runners. However, all I can think of now is how much the z28 will depreciate into my favor, give it a year or two. I'd like to track one.
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      You're on TCL, dude. You know this.

      Go to strettyend's GT3 thread. A guy with a Golf said "meh."
      The car is cool, for sure. It's just not gorgeous.

      I'm sure someone will yell "pointy elbows" but;

      - The wheels are gross, both design and color
      - the winglets in front although likely functional, aren't attractive
      - the "mesh" in the grille looks like it was made by APC
      - the third riser in the middle of the spoiler is ugly
      - although easily changed, the badge is stuck on the bumper?

      Just an opinion
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      02-25-2017 11:23 AM #18
      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Russells View Post
      The car is cool, for sure. It's just not gorgeous.

      I'm sure someone will yell "pointy elbows" but;

      - The wheels are gross, both design and color
      - the winglets in front although likely functional, aren't attractive
      - the "mesh" in the grille looks like it was made by APC
      - the third riser in the middle of the spoiler is ugly
      - although easily changed, the badge is stuck on the bumper?

      Just an opinion
      I personally like it, and if I were to mod a standard Camaro, it would look exactly like that. It's "Pointy Mirrors" when it comes to cars

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      02-24-2017 06:36 PM #19
      Looks like a lot of negative camber going on there.

      This thing is awesome.

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      02-24-2017 06:39 PM #20
      Probably a weird way to put this: It's probably the most badass car I have no interest in owning.

      On paper, I should like the Camaro but... It's just never been a car that's ever been in my dream garage.
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      Quote Originally Posted by VarianceVQ View Post
      Probably a weird way to put this: It's probably the most badass car I have no interest in owning.
      I feel the same way. I have a ton of respect for the General and this car in particular, but it's not even on my radar. Maybe I'll check out a 6th gen SS in a few years if I can ever get past that pillbox feeling.

      Not trying to diminish the car's accomplishments though, it's gonna be an absolute beast!

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