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    1. 04-19-2017 06:17 PM #1
      Just bought a mk4 r32 the other day and was stoked to take it for a drive. slapped plates on the thing and hopped on the road and after about a half hour the power steering just completely cut out. the previous owner had the rack and pinion replaced with a used part out of another R right before I bought the car because he said it failed. I'm almost positive that the pump is the issue right now because the PAS fluid is fine (not leaking and at a normal level). I dont hear any screeching or noise coming from the pump but it's just really hard to turn the wheel. The car drives fine other than that, I drove it to work this morning with no issue other than the power steering. thoughts? If its the pump should I bite the bullet and spend alot of money at the dealer for the part or could I get away with one of the pumps on ECS?

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      04-19-2017 06:29 PM #2
      That's your risk with an aftermarket pump. You can steal the part number from ecs and buy the part from vwpartsvortex.com

    3. 04-19-2017 06:45 PM #3
      Quote Originally Posted by jerryel1nico View Post
      That's your risk with an aftermarket pump. You can steal the part number from ecs and buy the part from vwpartsvortex.com
      No I think the pump in the car currently that died is the original pump. I'm asking if I should buy an aftermarket replacement or spend the extra cash for the oem part from vw. Or if the pump is even the problem at all

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      04-21-2017 10:00 AM #4
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandaman919 View Post
      No I think the pump in the car currently that died is the original pump. I'm asking if I should buy an aftermarket replacement or spend the extra cash for the oem part from vw. Or if the pump is even the problem at all
      get a used one from Autohaus. I think they have lifetime warranty on it. not sure. but be careful when getting replacement pump. our cars came with two versions. make sure you get the same one on your car now.

      Just curious- is your car silver? did you buy it in PA by any chance?

    5. 04-21-2017 10:16 AM #5
      Nope. Blue from NJ. I'm gonna get the pump from VW since I get a discount through my job and the place that did the rack originally said that it is under warranty if I bring it back to them

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      04-21-2017 11:30 AM #6
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandaman919 View Post
      Nope. Blue from NJ. I'm gonna get the pump from VW since I get a discount through my job and the place that did the rack originally said that it is under warranty if I bring it back to them
      Here's what I believe FGuri32 was referring to about different pumps coming on our vehicles:

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ips&p=99130321

    7. 04-21-2017 12:59 PM #7
      Quote Originally Posted by Auzlndr View Post
      Here's what I believe FGuri32 was referring to about different pumps coming on our vehicles:

      http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...ips&p=99130321
      Yah I saw that thread. If I take the power steering pump off to get the part number can I drive the car without it? Or is there a way Volkswagen could tell which pump I need by my vin number?

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      04-21-2017 02:14 PM #8
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandaman919 View Post
      Yah I saw that thread. If I take the power steering pump off to get the part number can I drive the car without it? Or is there a way Volkswagen could tell which pump I need by my vin number?
      It sounds like VIN should do it. I wish that thread was more clear, is it before the cutoff that can take either? Or, after?

      There are some parts lookup pages that accept VINs. I pasted mine in, and got an error on two of them. VW's recall tracker accepts my VIN, however, so I know I have it right.

      I don't think you can drive without the pump on. Check #5 here:
      http://i28.tinypic.com/abmmxd.jpg

      Without the pump the serpentine belt won't fit.

    9. 04-21-2017 02:15 PM #9
      Quote Originally Posted by Auzlndr View Post
      It sounds like VIN should do it. I wish that thread was more clear, is it before the cutoff that can take either? Or, after?

      There are some parts lookup pages that accept VINs. I pasted mine in, and got an error on two of them. VW's recall tracker accepts my VIN, however, so I know I have it right.

      I don't think you can drive without the pump on. Check #5 here:
      http://i28.tinypic.com/abmmxd.jpg

      Without the pump the serpentine belt won't fit.
      Yah I kinda figured I need to have the pump on. I'm probably gonna stop by VW after I get out of work and have them look up the part from my vin

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    10. 04-22-2017 10:32 AM #10
      So I ordered the pump from VW along with a few other small things I needed. They were able to know which pump I needed by the VIN number so that was a score. The pump is supposed to be there tuesday so I will update when I get the part. Since I couldnt find a DIY on this I'm going to use this thread to document my progress.

    11. 04-25-2017 06:55 PM #11
      Quick update. Just picked up the new pump from VW today after work, I also decided to order a new serpentine belt while I was there since I'm gonna have it off anyways. The information I was given at the dealer is that the earlier model pumps only fit the earlier models, whereas the later model pumps will fit all models. They were able to look up which part I needed by the VIN number in case anyone is wondering about that.

      I'm going to pick up the new belt on thursday and try to get it together this weekend





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      04-26-2017 07:59 AM #12
      Welcome to the club. I think I replaced my pump roughly 8 years ago!
      Many people enjoy eating apples and oranges, but in the end they are still… just apples and oranges. The R32 is passion fruit. . Live Long and Prosper.

    13. 04-27-2017 08:29 PM #13
      So a quick update, I installed the new pump and a new belt after work earlier with a few coworkers. install went pretty smooth for the most part, it probably took about 2 hours. power steering feels noticably better but still not very good, but every once and a while it feels great for about 10 seconds and then goes back to crap. Any ideas? we turned the pump by hand a few times to prime it and bleed alot of air out of the lines and kept topping it off. fluid looked fine when I got home from work (about 12 miles) but I'm gonna check again in the morning

    14. 04-28-2017 06:40 PM #14
      I talked to the shop foreman at my job earlier and he said he thinks it might be a speed sensor that is broken or making a bad connection, and that if its that that my abs light would be on. Well my abs light is on and its free to clean the sensors so I'm gonna try that and see if it makes a difference. Anybody know if the steering on these cars is affected by a speed sensor anywhere?

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      04-28-2017 06:46 PM #15
      No speed sensor won't affect it. Did you try bleeding the system? Aka turn steering wheel left to right full lock both sides with cap on reservoir open to cycle fluid through.


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    16. 04-28-2017 06:50 PM #16
      yah we bleed the steering and topped it off maybe 4 or 5 times until we stopped seeing bubbles and it stopped going down. should I maybe try again and see if I can get any more air bubbles out?

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      04-28-2017 07:02 PM #17
      Seen this happen a few times
      Replace the check valve bolt for supply line

      https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...olt/8e0422529/

      Ive seen this cause pump failure
      Check valve inside the banjo seizes or gets lodged shut, inturn, limits fluid flow to rack for power assist, because of this, it also causes the fluid to sit and not flow through cooler efficiently meaning the pump over heats over time
      Also
      When you install the pump, make sure the regulating valve when the pressure side of the pump (banjo bolt line) is not loose before tightening banjo. Can cause ait to get in the line

    18. 04-28-2017 07:16 PM #18
      just ordered one along with a haldex service kit and a few other things. the car is gonna be parked for a few days so the jetta can get some much needed love. hopefully its something as simple as the bolt, will report back!

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      04-29-2017 07:16 PM #19
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandaman919 View Post
      just ordered one along with a haldex service kit and a few other things. the car is gonna be parked for a few days so the jetta can get some much needed love. hopefully its something as simple as the bolt, will report back!
      I know you posted earlier about the ABS light, just so you know if you have an ABS light your haldex system will not working. You are FWD currently

    20. 04-29-2017 07:58 PM #20
      Quote Originally Posted by AnchorsAweigh View Post
      I know you posted earlier about the ABS light, just so you know if you have an ABS light your haldex system will not working. You are FWD currently
      Really? Because driving the car it feels like the haldex is working. Launching the car as hard as I can from a stop the front wheels go maybe a full turn and then it feels like the back wheels kick in and the car takes off

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      04-29-2017 08:48 PM #21
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandaman919 View Post
      Really? Because driving the car it feels like the haldex is working. Launching the car as hard as I can from a stop the front wheels go maybe a full turn and then it feels like the back wheels kick in and the car takes off

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      Yes, haldex requires wheel speed to be given it to it by ABS, if your ABS is out your haldex system is out.

    22. 04-29-2017 08:51 PM #22
      The abs light isn't always on though is the thing, it comes and goes. Could it be a loose or gunked up wire to the sensor?

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    23. 05-14-2017 09:16 AM #23
      So I read somewhere that the mkiv golf/gti have the same steering rack but the R32 has a short rack. The golf/gti are supposed to be 3 full turns lock to lock while the R32 is 2.6 turns or something like that. When I turn the wheel on my car it feels closer to 3 full turns lock to lock. The conclusion I've come to is the shop that did the rack before I bought it put in the wrong rack and then the extra weight of the 3.2 engine broke it. Can anybody who has more experience with this stuff shine some more light on my theory for me?

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      05-15-2017 10:03 AM #24
      Quote Originally Posted by Dandaman919 View Post
      The conclusion I've come to is the shop that did the rack before I bought it put in the wrong rack and then the extra weight of the 3.2 engine broke it. Can anybody who has more experience with this stuff shine some more light on my theory for me?

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      Weight didn't cause any problems. The motor/trans in the 24v GTI weigh pretty much the same as the R32, and I have a 3.2 swapped into my GTI and the steering is fine.

      Aging parts is most likely the cause.
      -Jon

    25. 05-15-2017 10:10 AM #25
      Quote Originally Posted by Jo|\| View Post
      Weight didn't cause any problems. The motor/trans in the 24v GTI weigh pretty much the same as the R32, and I have a 3.2 swapped into my GTI and the steering is fine.

      Aging parts is most likely the cause.
      Fair enough. What about the difference in the number of turns though?

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